Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site whuxl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!houxm!whuxl!orb From: orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Re: Business Cycles -- Note to Gadfly:Re to DKmcK Message-ID: <637@whuxl.UUCP> Date: Tue, 14-May-85 08:48:30 EDT Article-I.D.: whuxl.637 Posted: Tue May 14 08:48:30 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 15-May-85 00:53:17 EDT References: <1146@ratex.UUCP> <632@whuxl.UUCP> <1976@topaz.ARPA> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Whippany Lines: 39 > From JoSH: > > from me > >In order for there to be *no* economic cycles whatsoever the > >system would have to be *constantly* at the exact equilibrium point. > > This is complete, utter, total, absolute bullshit. A system oscillates > if it is underdamped; if it is overdamped (or critically damped) it > moves towards equilibrium asymptotically; under no circumstances > does it sit constantly at the equilibrium. > Precisely my point: a *dynamic* system can never sit at the equilibrium point. It may tend towards the equiliibrium point which in itself is probably shifting. But there is also the possibility that it can have wide fluctuations like: the Great Depression. > >"There is no way for the human body to ever have high-blood pressure, > > diabetes, or other such ills except for interference from the > > brain!" > > tim sevener whuxl!orb > > The business cycle is more aptly compared to the effects on a drug > addict's body of his alternately overdosing and going cold turkey. > The Keynesian "prescription" for this condition is an even, smoothly > but constantly increasing dosage. After all, in the long run we are > all dead. > > --JoSH The Libertarian "prescription" is the Great Depression - lets leave any stabilizing government influences aside and let the market put 33% of the workforce out of work. After all in the long run we are all out of work. Regardless of revisionist history which tries to rewrite the history of the origins of the Great Depression I have yet to see a refutation of the fact that *massive government intervention* is what finally brought the US out of the Depression. This does not mean all government intervention is good, wise, or necessary. It is simply accepting the fact that without it we might have stayed mired in the Depression for years. tim sevener whuxl!orb