Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site opus.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!nbires!opus!atkins From: atkins@opus.UUCP (Brian Atkins) Newsgroups: net.rec.scuba Subject: Re: Results of general information request... Message-ID: <1208@opus.UUCP> Date: Fri, 17-May-85 15:34:11 EDT Article-I.D.: opus.1208 Posted: Fri May 17 15:34:11 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 20-May-85 04:02:53 EDT References: <2058@decwrl.UUCP> <10508@brl-tgr.ARPA> <5350@tektronix.UUCP> Reply-To: atkins@opus.UUCP (Brian Atkins) Distribution: net Organization: NBI,Inc, Boulder CO Lines: 35 Keywords: ScubaPro, Mark VII With respect to the Mark VII first stage from ScubaPro, I would suggest against it. The Mark VII's main selling point is the fact that it's audible. The problems with it include the size, huge, the fact that it does not rotate, making set up, storage, and many hose usage a real problem. The primary fact that I don't like it is, aside from the inconvenience of the shape/design, that you shouldn't rely on such a device. You should have a gauge that has been checked recently and is in general trust worthy. You should look at it frequently, especially under conditions you're not used to (depth, diving at altitude, etc.). It should be obvious when it fails. If you have been at 40 feet for 20 minutes, and the gauge reads much higher (or lower) than your normal consumption under the conditions would allow, you should be suspicious. If it is off by just a small amount, not enough to make you worried about your gauge, then your end of dive reserve (300psi or so at least) should keep you safe. If you are ever in doubt, go up and get it checked. In short, if you ever hear an audible without almost anticipating the first clang (or breath out on a J-valve without anticipating that), you should NOT be in the water at all! One side note. A friend of mine just got back from Cancun. He was on a dive with a local guide when he was tapped on the shoulder. The GUIDE was there in a rather bad way since he was completely out of air!! I guess he took an empty tank with just a J-valve. The pressure was just enough to let him get to depth before he ran out. Unfortunately, his reserve was what he just ran out of. Whether the J-valve was down when he set up, or it fell down later, Luckily, my friend has an octopus. Buddy breathing with someone like that would not be a casual experience! Has anyone else heard this kind of stuff? Especially from Cancun/Cosumel? Brian Atkins ...{attunix, hao, allegra, ucbvax}!nbires!atkins NBI Inc., P.O. Box 9001, Boulder CO 80301 (303) 444-5710