Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site trwatf.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!trwatf!root From: root@trwatf.UUCP (Lord Frith) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Remembering the Holocaust: What have we learned? Message-ID: <925@trwatf.UUCP> Date: Thu, 16-May-85 14:10:53 EDT Article-I.D.: trwatf.925 Posted: Thu May 16 14:10:53 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 17-May-85 06:03:11 EDT References: <1019@phs.UUCP> <912@pyuxd.UUCP> <262@ihu1n.UUCP> <885@trwatf.UUCP> <929@pyuxd.UUCP> <905@trwatf.UUCP> <952@pyuxd.UUCP> Organization: TRW Advanced Technology Facility, Merrifield VA. Lines: 86 >> Where are his legions of followers? Where are the brownshirts and >> swastikas? When was the last time Don Black murdered his political >> opponents to gain a seat in public office or the sanction of the >> state? Do you see an immenent physical threat from his postings? > Obviously you've never heard of the Aryan Nations, or the numerous other > neo-Nazo groups springing up in all parts of the country. Do you know one > way that modern American neo-Nazis work on increasing their membership? > They "preach" to disowned farmers that the "rich Jews who run the banks" > are the ones who are taking their farms away! Pretty slick, huh? No, pretty ineffective I think. Many farmers would give this kind of "preacher" the boot right out the door. But then Don Black isn't going door-to-door inciting farmers to fire-bomb jewish controlled financial institutions is he? If you COULD find a causal link between his postings and some terrorist activity you might have something. > No threat, you say. No threat from his postings, that's right. Care to point out a single direct physical manifestation of Don Black's postings? Thus far the lot of you have used entirely unrelated incidents and analogies, but not one scrap of evidence has been presented to show that Black *himself* has posed any kind of threat with his net-traffic. Until such time he can be ignored. > Hmm, is it only a threat, sir.... My such a haughty tone of voice we have. I'm just trembling before your awsome righteousness. > ...once they've already made inroads into taking over? I'd rather > have a little more foresight (and hindsight, learning some lessons from > history) than you, my friend. And just HOW is Don Black supposedly going to "take over" the net, eh? Keep the discussion in context Rich... you're rapidly proving that you don't really have anything to say concerning Don Black. You will also note that I DID advocate education and social awareness as the means to countering such neo-nincompoops... not the LOUD and SHRILL attitude that you and others have displayed; a segment of my article you conveniently discarded. Awareness of history does not mean screaming "jew-hater" at the top of your lungs and then additionally hanging a sign that says "appeaser" around MY neck. > It's all in your childish imaginations. So go ahead and let yourselves > be jerked around by every net.neo.nazi with a blatently anti-semetic > ideology. > OK, I will. I think it's worth it to show such people for what they are. Yes it IS worth showing such people for what they are. But what do you think you can accomplish by brow-beating him in response? Do you REALLY think we can't see what Don Black is from his postings? It's not as if what he said was subtle or anything. Commentary from you and the legions of the net is hardly necessary to expose Don Black for what he is. Especially the LOUD and SHRILL catharsis' we've seen recently. > Apparently you don't. Apparently because you either don't care, don't > notice a longterm threat from such people, or feel you have nothing to > lose so as not to worry about Jews and homosexuals and anyone else who > doesn't go along. I suppose you never heard of Pastor Niemoller. There is no long term threat to the network from Don Black that your LOUD and SHRILL postings will solve. In essence you folks are just providing yourselves with a nice little outlet for your hate. Rich, here, takes it a step further by distorting my psotings and flaming at me as if I were some kind of Munich-style appeaser a' la "Peace in our time"... god what a silly and pathetic image that seems to us today. >> That's why you come off like such a flaming belligerent idiot. > As opposed to those who agree with you, who are of course enlightened, > wise thinkers.... You are welcomed to believe anything you like Rich. Few things are actually true, however. -- UUCP: ...{decvax,ihnp4,allegra}!seismo!trwatf!root - Lord Frith ARPA: trwatf!root@SEISMO Nasha Lutcha!