Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Arthur Pewtey) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.religion.jewish,net.religion.christian Subject: Re: The Old Ways - final comments Message-ID: <972@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Fri, 10-May-85 19:14:29 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.972 Posted: Fri May 10 19:14:29 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 11-May-85 04:15:41 EDT References: <715@decwrl.UUCP> <587@pyuxd.UUCP> <948@pyuxd.UUCP> <1385@shark.UUCP> Organization: The Chartered Accountants Who Want to Be Lion Tamers Association Lines: 40 Xref: watmath net.religion:6867 net.religion.jewish:1952 net.religion.christian:720 > In article <948@pyuxd.UUCP> rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (alias Arthur Pewtey) writes: > > > >It is becoming apparent that the Don Black persona was more than likely a > >fraud perpetrated by DEC employees. The fact that Don Black is the name of a > >leader of the Alabama (?) KKK, plus the fact that Ken Arndt was conspicuously > >absent (uncharacteristically so) during this whole affair (with some of > >"Black's" material echoing his style), are factors leading to this conclusion. > >Would an actual person who actually worked for DEC who actually believed what > >was said actually leave his actual name? Nonetheless, "Black's" words are > >worth looking at for what they represent. Some may take this as some sort of > >excuse to say "Now you see why I didn't bother speaking out!" 20/20 > >hindsight. > Well, this intrigued me. I contacted a friend at Dec, who used the online > Employee Locator Facility Database to look for "Don Black", although this > would of course prove nothing, since the EZNet allows the same kinds of > forgery of "from" information that Rich uses to put in his amusing aliases. > > There are TWO gentlemen named Don[ald] Black who work at Dec; both at sites in > the continental US. There could be others who work at other sites on the > EZNet who aren't in the ELF database; it only covers some US sites, and there > are well over 5000 machines on the Dec EZNet with an average of 25 people per > machine. Either of these two gentlemen are as likely to be the person posting > the Identity "Christian" nonsense; Arndt has never seemed to support that > kind of stupidity except when he wanted to whip Rich into a frothing rage. > > Sorry, Rich, but I regret to inform you that the evidence does not support > your conjecture; it is just too likely that Black is a separate person. See? All it takes is a little evidence to prove me wrong. I've been told that others who have actually spoken to a Don Black at DEC can assure me that he is real and believes what he says. Others who have engaged in arguments with me or intend to in the future would be well advised to follow Mr. Hutchison's example provided above: supply some worthwhile evidence, draw some viable conclusions, and show how they conflict with my own conclusions. A major change of pace from the usual way people rebut my articles (e.g., quoting bogus statistics to make me look bad, calling me names, etc.). -- Anything's possible, but only a few things actually happen. Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr