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From: sieg@bocar.UUCP (B A Siegel)
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Subject: Re: Jewish Singles
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Date: Thu, 9-May-85 09:05:50 EDT
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Subject: Re: Jewish Singles
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> First, should a Jewish organization have activities on Shabbat?  And, second,
> are frum people fanatics?  I know a number of high ranking people in industry,
> education, and government who consider themselves frum.  They are, by no means
> fanatics.  They simply follow the laws of the Torah.  What happens when a
> Jewish organization holds activities on Shabbat?  For those who follow the
> Law, it can cause problems.  Non-Jews do not distinguish between frum and
> non-frum, they only see that a Jewish organization holds activities at the
> same time a frum person says he or she is unavailable.  I have had to
> face this a number of times; it made me look like the fanatic David 
> mentions above - a self-fulfilling prophecy.  I realize that not everyone
> is observant, but why should "official" organizations, seen by non-Jews
> as a representatives of the Jewish people, act in violation of Jewish law
> and cause problems for those who are observant?


> M. Schneider

The problem does not pertain to Shabbat alone.  I participate in a local
softball league (Middlesex county, New Jersey) sponsored by the local
Jewish Federation (or YMHA).  The teams are made up of local synagouges,
temples, Jewish community centers..  The games are played on sunday mornings.
Well this years schedule includes games scheduled on sunday May 26, (Shavuot
day 1) and sundays July 7,28  (fastdays 10'th of Tammuz & 9'th of Av).
The chutzpah of scheduling games on shavuot & 9'th of Av, by a Jewish 
organization is appaling and in my opinion is not anti-frum BUT anti Jewish.


				Barry Siegel