Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site csd2.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!csd2!dimitrov From: dimitrov@csd2.UUCP (Isaac Dimitrovsky) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Interpreting Antisemitism Message-ID: <3780053@csd2.UUCP> Date: Sun, 12-May-85 13:00:00 EDT Article-I.D.: csd2.3780053 Posted: Sun May 12 13:00:00 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 14-May-85 07:52:23 EDT References: <560@sfmag.UUCP> Organization: New York University Lines: 25 [] Yitzchok Samet writes: > The argument that Jewish tragedies "prove" that our religion is > wrong is a familiar Christain theme. Christianity considers it > valid to "prove" or "disprove" the basic validity of a religion > from history. We don't. The validity of our tradition is based on > logic (this is a broad issue which has to be treated separately) > rather than interpretation of prophecies miracles, and historical > events. But weren't you doing exactly this (i.e. trying to show that history agrees with the predictions of the Jewish religion, which certainly can be interpreted as trying to "prove" the Jewish religion from history) when earlier you wrote: > This major theme, that our security is tied to our allegiance to > the Torah, is reiterated in the prophets and the sages. However, > one may have to be a prophet, or a great sage, to relate specific > Divine retributions to specific sins. However, this does not stop > us from recognizing, in general, that Divine retribution or > chastisement is behind major catastrophes. Also, some Rabbis feel > that they can extract general object lessons from something like > the holocaust. Isaac Dimitrovsky