Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site timeinc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!timeinc!dwight From: dwight@timeinc.UUCP (Dwight Ernest) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: Starship Troopers Message-ID: <172@timeinc.UUCP> Date: Fri, 10-May-85 23:21:13 EDT Article-I.D.: timeinc.172 Posted: Fri May 10 23:21:13 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 12-May-85 04:37:44 EDT References: <147@yetti.UUCP> <1331@reed.UUCP> <168@hyper.UUCP> <701@ncoast.UUCP> Reply-To: dwight@timeinc.UUCP (Dwight Ernest) Organization: Time, Inc. - New York Lines: 40 Summary: In article <701@ncoast.UUCP> bsa@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon Allbery) writes: > >Quoted from <168@hyper.UUCP> ["Re: NofTheBeast - True STINKER"], by brust@hyper.UUCP (Steven Brust)... >+--------------- >| > reader. I have read just about everything he has written. Some of >| > his books have offended me (Starship Troopers, Farnham's Freehold) >| > Bill Baker >| Yes. To paraphrase one notable SF writer (Pamela Dean), "Starship >| Troopers is infuriating and you can't stay away from it." This >| -- SKZB >What is it everyone sees wrong with STARSHIP TROOPERS? >--bsa Well, how about fascism as glorified politics? How about blind military allegiance? How about violence==glory? Fortunately, it's difficult not to have a great deal of sympathy and identity with the bad "guys" in RAH's STARSHIP TROOPERS. Kind of like the way most Americans and British and Russians feel about what their country did in WW II. But even WW II had its many agonizing moments of vast grey areas (take just one example--Allied ignorance of the 300+ Nazi death camps). In RAH's world, there seem to be no grey areas, so we like the book (I really did enjoy it). But in real life there's grey everywhere. And that's why blind allegiance, unquestioning military service, and the equating of violence with glory are SO DAMNABLY DANGEROUS. One would hope Homo Sapiens will soon outgrow this kind of behavior--and literature--which leads down the path to the kind of dangerous "true belief" that Eric Hoffer warned us against. And which Hitler made such successful use of. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --Dwight Ernest KA2CNN \ Usenet:...vax135!timeinc!dwight Time Inc. Edit./Prod. Tech. Grp., New York City Voice: (212) 554-5061 \ Compuserve: 70210,523 Telemail: DERNEST/TIMECOMDIV/TIMEINC \ MCI: DERNEST "The opinions expressed above are those of the writer and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Time Incorporated." -----------------------------------------------------------------------------