Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucla-cs.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!trwrb!trwrba!cepu!ucla-cs!mccolm From: mccolm@ucla-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.singles,net.women Subject: Re: dancing and singles' bars Message-ID: <5376@ucla-cs.ARPA> Date: Sun, 12-May-85 17:21:37 EDT Article-I.D.: ucla-cs.5376 Posted: Sun May 12 17:21:37 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 16-May-85 06:46:13 EDT References: <5160@ucla-cs.ARPA> <640@pyuxc.UUCP> Reply-To: mccolm@ucla-cs.UUCP (Eric McColm) Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 47 Xref: watmath net.singles:6979 net.women:5064 Summary: What is the purpose of a singles' bar? >>The main problem is there are those >>who go to get laid, and they assume everyone else does as well. > >I've said (posted) this before, and I'll say it again. What's >wrong with going out to get laid? The problem is that they assume everyone else wants to as well. >...The only problem I can see with it would be dishonesty, i.e., >don't tell someone you're interested in really getting to know >them if you just want to go to bed with them. >Chris This is a prevalent deception. Let's face it; the attitude of the people I am trying to ridicule resembles a Minimax game tree strategy rather than a human social interaction. Because of this, these sorts will follow any behavior they think will achieve the goal. It would be nice if there was some socially acceptable way that people who are interested in spending the night with anyone could communicate this outright, rather than engaging in mating dances of ludicrous sophistication. The real purpose of the Sexual Revolution was (I thought) to allow people to be more honest about their sexual feelings and desires. Unfortunately, I don't think it's working. The only real advantage of this would be that people who want to dance could dance, people who want to meet people can meet people, and people who want to satisfy their carnal urges can do that too, all without social firewalking, deception, hurt feelings, etc, etc, etc. That is, without worrying that the person you are talking to now doesn't want what you want. Of course, there also has to be a socially acceptable way of saying either yes or no, to any of the above propositions. Alas, there is currently no socially acceptable way to communicate *just* what you want out of the person you are talking to. And reading body language and vocal inflections is difficult in a hot, smoky, dark, and noisy singles' bar. This doesn't solve the whole problem, of course, but I think it might be an improvement. Any better ideas? --fini-- Eric McColm UCLA (oo' - kluh) Funny Farm for the Criminally Harmless UUCP: ...!{ihnp4,ucbvax,cepu,sdcrdcf,trwspp}!ucla-cs!mccolm ARPA: these days, who knows? Q1: "The world is round. Forever. The rest is up to us." Q2: "Reason is Peace; Fanaticism is Slavery; Tolerance is Strength."