Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mordor.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!ut-sally!mordor!@S1-A.ARPA,@MIT-MC:amon@cmu-ri-fas.arpa From: @S1-A.ARPA,@MIT-MC:amon@cmu-ri-fas.arpa Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Budget cuts Message-ID: <1697@mordor.UUCP> Date: Tue, 7-May-85 20:46:08 EDT Article-I.D.: mordor.1697 Posted: Tue May 7 20:46:08 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 10-May-85 20:46:27 EDT Sender: daemon@mordor.UUCP Lines: 52 From: Dale.Amon@CMU-RI-FAS I am not in substantial disagreement with Eugene on the matter of budgets. Neither I nor others have been lobbying for cuts in planetary programs to save the space station. We have been lobbying to keep the budget intact. I would love to see a carrier task force traded away and the resultant funds switched to useful purposes. Early commercialization of the STS might be another way to free up funds for the station. It must also be noted that the space station budget is still not very large, relatively speaking. We could probably pay for it by using the profits of selling hammers, coffee pots and steel washers to the DOD... My ire was directed at those who ARE trying to get other programs cut to save their own piece. I might add that I have been trying to verify the rumor that set off my explosion. I have thus far verified that a group of planetary scientists did indeed approach Sen. Slade Gorton (Majority leader of the Senate Appropriations Committee) requesting such tradeoffs. I have not yet verified whether Carl Sagan was one of them, but I'm working on it. If the planetary scientists are, as a group, attempting to cut other peoples throats, then I have to begin wondering whether we should turn the other cheek. (I am of a basically mellow philosophy: let the other guy take the first swing at you. Then nuke him). I really do doubt that there are a more than a small handful of planetary scientists who are of this low a moral caliber. I find it hard to imagine how anyone could have gotten into planetary science to begin with without having dreamed of GOING themselves. If I should come across the names, I will post them so all will know who they are. A few morons can cause a great deal of harm and generate a great deal of noise. It is hard to be anything BUT explosive when you discover others working at cross purposes for their own selfish ends. I might also make it clear that although I spend a great deal of time trying to defend the space station budget, I have nothing to gain from it but hope for the future. I am not now and have never been employed in any capacity remotely related to NASA or aerospace. (This is not to say I never will, but if I do it will most likely be with an entrepreneurial firm intending to build and/or operate it's own launch vehicles. My reaction to red tape is to tie knots in it and do what I want while someone tries to figure out the snarls, so I'd never make it with any government agency or contractor) I will also add that my earlier post generated a personal mail response to me from Louis Friedman, Executive Director of the Planetary Society. If anyone is interested, I would be more than happy to post his comments. I will state that he denies the Planetary Society has lobbied against the space station. As far as I know at this point, as an organization, this appears to be true. I do not yet know whether the people who run the society are among those who are attacking the station. I will reserve my judgement until I find out for sure, and if they are not, I will be more than happy to apologize to those who happened to be the wrong target.