Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site spar.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!uwvax!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!decwrl!spar!freeman From: freeman@spar.UUCP (Jay Freeman) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Speed Of Light Message-ID: <236@spar.UUCP> Date: Wed, 8-May-85 16:20:55 EDT Article-I.D.: spar.236 Posted: Wed May 8 16:20:55 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 11-May-85 08:19:18 EDT References: <2073@decwrl.UUCP> Reply-To: freeman@max.UUCP (Jay Freeman) Organization: Schlumberger Palo Alto Research, CA Lines: 44 Keywords: relativity /* libation to line-eater */ In article <2073@decwrl.UUCP> harrow@exodus.DE (Jeff Harrow NCSE TWO/E92 DTN=247-3134) writes: >There's something I've never quite understood: > >Consider the following setup: > >\-------/ (Ship #2 going at .9C) (Laser, at 1.0C) (Ship #1 at 0.1C) | | >--> ------------------------ >| Earth |---------------------------------------------------- >--> >| | (Laser, going at 1.0C) >/-------\ > > > ... Theory and experiment indicate that both laser beams will be perceived as moving at 1.0 C both by observers on Earth and on by observers on each space ship. Note that the original conclusion, that one observer will see light moving at 1.8 C and another at 0.1 C, stems from the implicit assumption that the "right way" to compare speeds is by simple addition and subtraction: But this amounts to making an hypothesis about the physical world, which can be tested by experiment, and so forth. And the experiments and reasoning associated with the development of the special theory of relativity have indicated that mere addition and subtraction are NOT the "right way" to compare speeds. The rule is more complicated, and it leads to the conclusion that all light beams moving in vacuum have the same speed as seen by all observers. When relative speeds are very small, the rule suggested by relativity reduces to simple addition and subtraction, so that our common-sense notions are vindicated. However, common sense is derived from common experience, and there is no reason to assume that it should apply to situations and conditions far beyond the everyday. Flamers will note that there is a lot more that one could say about these matters :-) ... -- -- Jay Reynolds Freeman (Schlumberger Palo Alto Research)