Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mordor.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!ut-sally!mordor!@S1-A.ARPA,@MIT-MC:JOSH@RUTGERS.ARPA From: @S1-A.ARPA,@MIT-MC:JOSH@RUTGERS.ARPA Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Swimming in air, etc Message-ID: <1783@mordor.UUCP> Date: Tue, 14-May-85 00:08:09 EDT Article-I.D.: mordor.1783 Posted: Tue May 14 00:08:09 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 16-May-85 05:14:13 EDT Sender: daemon@mordor.UUCP Lines: 17 From: JoSH "Swimming" in air is no different from swimming underwater, except that air is 800 or so times less dense than water, so you obtain 800 times less impetus from a given stroke. Of course the stroke is easier to make, but not 800 times so. I have found (by experiment) that one can obtain 5 or so pounds of thrust in air using a large (12") model airplane propellor and an electric motor small enough to hold in one hand (from a weed trimmer, if you're interested). An average person could get 1 f/s^2 out of this, so only a few seconds of use would be needed for any one movement. Thus I would expect that a unit with fold-up prop, rare-earth motor, and nicads could be built to last a normal day's use without recharging and be a conveniently clip-on-belt sized item. --JoSH -------