Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site altos86.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!amd!vecpyr!altos86!andy From: andy@altos86.UUCP (Andy Hatcher) Newsgroups: net.taxes Subject: Re: SS deduction Message-ID: <125@altos86.UUCP> Date: Sun, 5-May-85 19:09:53 EDT Article-I.D.: altos86.125 Posted: Sun May 5 19:09:53 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 14-May-85 06:40:42 EDT References: <5762@duke.UUCP> <121@pyuxh.UUCP> <632@ssc-vax.UUCP> <434@hou5h.UUCP> <884@peora.UUCP> Organization: Altos Computer Systems, San Jose, CA Lines: 40 I would gladly give up and all the contributions that I have ever made into Social Security and any future payments, if I could just stop making new contributions. I doubt very strongly whether SS will be around when I get to retirement age (I am now 26). I am certainly not depending on it (I have 2 IRA's and a 401k plan, as does my wife). What people don't seem to realize (or care about) is that SS can not be a selfsustaining benifit plan. All the money that goes into the system is used to pay existing claims, but by the time the contributor reaches retirement age the cost of living has gone up, and the number of retired people has increased. Social Security is just like the pyramid schemes you read about in the newspaper: 10 people contribute $2000 a year into SS to support one person's benefits of $20,000 when those 10 people reach retirement age, there will have to be 100 people (or more, because of cost of living increases) to support them. The problem is that you very quickly run out of people to pay. If SS were run the same way as an IRA it wouldn't be so bad, the money contributed would be set aside in an account, just for you, invested for you and would not be used for anything else, a small portion of the money collected for you, could also be used to buy life and disability insurance for you. I think that sooner or later, the government is going to have to bite the bullet and eliminate the SS program as we now know it. Anyway, enough rambling, Andy Hatcher Altos Computer Systems ucbvax!dual!lll-crg!vecpyr!altos86!andy P.S. All opinions are my own, etc. etc.