Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site mhuxr.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mfs From: mfs@mhuxr.UUCP (SIMON) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: "them" vs. "it" vs. "he" vs. "she" Message-ID: <314@mhuxr.UUCP> Date: Fri, 10-May-85 23:39:51 EDT Article-I.D.: mhuxr.314 Posted: Fri May 10 23:39:51 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 11-May-85 04:44:25 EDT References: <378@ttidcc.UUCP> <557@mnetor.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 17 > What offended my feminist sensitivities at the tender age of 5 was that the > plural of one man and one woman is masculine! As it was put to us then, > "if you have one male cat in the same room as 100 female cats, you will > have to say 'ils'". I still have trouble swallowing that one! > -- > Sophie Quigley I can see the potential for offense, but in a language with no neutral pronoun, they had to make a choice. Since the Academie Francaise is full of old male reactionaries, their choice of the male pronoun should not be surprising. The alternative is to use the female pronoun, which is also unsatisfactory. A solution is to avoid using pronouns and say things like (in the context of the above example) 'les chats' (I know that the generic 'cat' is masculine; oh well, back to the drawing board) Marcel Simon