Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site spar.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!decwrl!spar!ellis From: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Perchild and other Stupidity Message-ID: <244@spar.UUCP> Date: Tue, 14-May-85 09:01:54 EDT Article-I.D.: spar.244 Posted: Tue May 14 09:01:54 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 16-May-85 21:08:55 EDT References: <385@ttidcc.UUCP> <305@mhuxr.UUCP> <327@h-sc1.UUCP> <367@mtxinu.UUCP> Reply-To: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Organization: Schlumberger Palo Alto Research, CA Lines: 55 >> There are plenty of words ending in "man" that have no good equivalent. >> Such as "human". (Oh, NOW I'm going to get flamed! :-) ) > >No flame here, but you're right. We once had a great time evolving >a friend's name: > > Beckerman sexist - "man" > Beckerperson sexist - "son" > Beckerperchild ageist - "child" .... Groan!! NO! She was not right! {Frankly, I think she was kidding...} Advocates of non-sexist language who say such foolish things are behaving as stupidly as their worst critics suggest. Or would you suggest, as your critics believe you propose, that every word containing -man- -men- -son- be deleted from the vocabulary? Why is `man' in a word like `repairman', etc. considered sexist? Because it REALLY DOES CONTAIN the word MAN. You can tell, because it has the prefix `repair', and its plural is `repairmen'. `Human' is not such a word. There is no such prefix as `hu-'; furthermore its plural is not `humen'. Apparently, it needs to be stated again -- human derives from Latin `homo', NOT English `man'. And please, leave `person' exactly as is -- it cannot possibly be derived from per+son. For the zillionth time, this word comes from Latin `persona', meaning `mask' -- `sona' is related to `sound' (NOT `son') and combines with `per' to mean `that thru which one voice emanates'. Roman masks originally doubled as voice amplifiers... Furthermore, I believe that `person' and `human' are totally free from masculine associations. Check out the list below: a person's life a human's life personal humanism personage humane personality humanity impersonal Contrast the total lack of sex identification in the above with the decidedly masculine connotations of: a man's life manly manlike mannish If you are opposed to sexist language, please note that `perchild' and and its ilk the are the tools of your opponents used to ridicule your viewpoint. -michael