Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site mtx5b.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!ariel!mtx5b!mat From: mat@mtx5b.UUCP (Mark Terribile) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Re: sexist language/bad attitudes Message-ID: <1416@mtx5b.UUCP> Date: Thu, 16-May-85 00:50:14 EDT Article-I.D.: mtx5b.1416 Posted: Thu May 16 00:50:14 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 17-May-85 00:14:44 EDT References: <496@ucsfcgl.UUCP>, <857@druxo.UUCP>, <499@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems Laboratories, Holmdel, NJ Lines: 21 >>Not quite...men have greater "permission" from society to do what pleases >>them, even when it goes against societal norms. >>Nancy Parsons >...I think there are *tremendous* pressures against males doing pretty much > anything that's "typically female". Women are free to wear clothes designed > for men as well as those designed for women. Men, on the other hand, simply > cannot wear a skirt and sandals to the office on a hot summer day. And I > imagine there are really serious pressures on male nurses and secretaries. > I'm trying to imagine what a male secretary would put up with when some > fellow asks him what he does over a beer in a bar. Pretty grim, I bet. Where I used to work, every day during National Secretaries' Week a flower would appear on each secretaries desk. One of the VPs was Judy S. and her secretary Greg looked real cute next to the flower! As to what you say: ``I'm an assistant to the Vice President for ...''. -- from Mole End Mark Terribile (scrape .. dig ) mtx5b!mat ,.. .,, ,,, ..,***_*.