Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site kontron.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!lsuc!pesnta!pertec!kontron!cramer From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Re: \"Why not send the men home?\" Message-ID: <168@kontron.UUCP> Date: Fri, 17-May-85 15:51:18 EDT Article-I.D.: kontron.168 Posted: Fri May 17 15:51:18 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 18-May-85 09:41:27 EDT References: <1848@decwrl.UUCP> <423@sftri.UUCP> <1467@reed.UUCP> <431@sftri.UUCP> <134@lzwi.UUCP> Organization: Kontron Electronics, Irvine, CA Lines: 17 > I, for one, have IMMENSELY enjoyed seeing the shoe on the other foot. > For years, women have been explicitly & implicitly told that > rape is their fault & that they must never be without male > "protection" (from other men!). Of course, as the discussion > above re: domestic violence suggests, the men many women look > to (or are instructed to look to) are the ones least qualified > to give it. In terms of violence, there is no getting > around the fact that men don't treat women very well at all. > > C. E. Jackson *Some* men don't treat *some* women very well at all. One of the reasons that the label *feminist* leaves a bad taste in my mouth is a tendency by some self-proclaimed feminists to lump all men and all women into classes, and view rape, spouse abuse, and violence as "class struggle" issues. Each of us is an individual, and deserves to be treated as an individual, *not* as a member of a class, sex, or group.