Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucla-cs.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!amd!pesnta!pertec!scgvaxd!trwrb!cepu!ucla-cs!mccolm From: mccolm@ucla-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Re: \"Why not send the men home?\" Message-ID: <5449@ucla-cs.ARPA> Date: Thu, 16-May-85 00:21:15 EDT Article-I.D.: ucla-cs.5449 Posted: Thu May 16 00:21:15 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 20-May-85 04:19:50 EDT References: <1848@decwrl.UUCP> <423@sftri.UUCP> <1467@reed.UUCP> <431@sftri.UUCP> Reply-To: mccolm@ucla-cs.UUCP (Eric McColm) Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 49 In article <431@sftri.UUCP> mom@sftri.UUCP (Mark Modig) writes: >> > > My sister has a theory, which I find thought-provoking. She says, >> > > (and I have seen elsewhere) that better than 95% of violent crimes >> > > are committed by males; females are more likely to be victims. >> > ... >> > > a curfew. My sister contends that a curfew for men should be >> > > instituted as this would drastically reduce violent crime. >> > > let men out when willingly accompanied by a woman. >> > > >> > > Respectfully, >> > > Joanne Munson >You know what really burns me about this whole thing? The original >proposal that started this whole thing was made (I assume) in all >seriousness. Yet it is (at least, to me) absurd. Yet there has not >even been one article in this group authored by a woman that treats >this proposal as anything other than serious. The article I'm >replying to refers to "doing something" with men. Is this what you >people really feel? Do you women all really feel SERIOUSLY that >such a curfew would be a good idea, or at least worth trying?.... > To men, Joannes comment is funny because it is completely ludicrous. To women, it is no laughing matter. It might be safe to say that the original comment is seen by most women as a joke, but that the later comments were not. Women are *very* short on humor on the subject of rape. Comes with being a target. But let's not snarl at each other over this. Those who replied to levity with seriousness were trying to reach kindred spirits who, they felt, needed the opinions of another woman on a terrifying issue. No hostility toward other netlanders was meant. Let's leave it at that. But no-one really wants to lock all men up in their houses at night, or in cages at all times, or other such things. We would rather that the night was safe for *both* sexes. Even Feminist Secessionists (a label, and I know it's wrong to use labels) do not wish to imprison men. Just to get rid of us. Humanely, if possible. I consider the joke witty, because it is counter-culture. If it was told by men about women, I would be offended. Why? Because it would be a bit too near the truth. p.s. If rapists test NORMAL on personality tests, then I'm glad I'm crazy. --fini-- Eric McColm UCLA (oo' - kluh) Funny Farm for the Criminally Harmless UUCP: ...!{ucbvax,cepu,sdcrdcf,ihnp4,trwspp}!ucla-cs!mccolm ARPA: I'll remember it when they make up their minds.