Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/12/84; site mit-hermes.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!mit-eddie!mit-hermes!jpexg From: jpexg@mit-hermes.ARPA (John Purbrick) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Re: Life Expectancy Message-ID: <2397@mit-hermes.ARPA> Date: Sun, 19-May-85 00:09:10 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-herm.2397 Posted: Sun May 19 00:09:10 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 20-May-85 04:33:53 EDT References: <591@astrovax.UUCP> <2395@mit-hermes.ARPA> <25992@lanl.ARPA> Distribution: net Organization: The MIT AI Lab, Cambridge, MA Lines: 25 >> Men kill themselves in all kinds of ways including... >> *********************************************** >> * > Having anything to do with firearms * >> *********************************************** > Please tell us the source of statistics that suggest this. I believe > the shooting sports are considerably safer than people think. I've > seen some statistics but I can't recall where, at the moment. At > least you put it at the bottom of your list. No statistics, but I was referring to accidents and preventable homicides caused by firearms. You're right, target shooting is done under very carefully controlled conditions, but every year there's a rash of hunting acidents; kids (almost always boys) find their parents' (almost always dads') guns and play games with them, with sometimes tragic results; occasionally someone will blaze away at a burglar and have to explain his actions to the paperboy's parents; people (mostly men) are shot accidentally by policemen; some people (mostly male people) are killed by "unloaded" guns; and this is not an exhaustive list. What I meant by "preventable homicides" is when people get in an argument, tempers are high, someone has a lethal weapon handy, and someone else ends up dead. Sure, you can kill a person any number of ways, but most of them give the victim a better chance of escape, or at least survival. Was I guilty of over-generalization in saying "Having _anything_ to do with firearms"? Sorry.