Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mnetor.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!mnetor!sophie From: sophie@mnetor.UUCP (Sophie Quigley) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Re: The Dotson Case Message-ID: <842@mnetor.UUCP> Date: Tue, 21-May-85 14:46:01 EDT Article-I.D.: mnetor.842 Posted: Tue May 21 14:46:01 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 21-May-85 16:45:20 EDT References: <2220@decwrl.UUCP> <429@ttidcc.UUCP> Organization: Computer X (CANADA) Ltd., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Lines: 29 > > o The conviction rate for rape is about 2%. This is by > > far the lowest rate of conviction for any crime. > > > > I think the problem here lies in proving rape. More than almost any other > crime, the proof of rape depends on a person's state of mind. Furthermore, > unlike any other crime I can think of, it depends on the state of the > _victim's_ mind. > > If you point a gun at someone and demand they give you money, that's armed > robbery. Period. States of mind don't enter into the case, only the > actions matter. > If you point a gun at someone and demand that they "submit", that's armed rape. If you force someone some other way, it is unarmed rape, but still rape, just like unarmed theft is still theft. If you want to make a valid comparison, you should compare armed rape with armed robbery, and unarmed rape with unarmed robbery. If there are no weapons involved, theft could also depend in the state of the victim's mind. "Why Officer, when I asked him to, he just handed over his whole paycheck to me. I had no idea he didn't really want to!" -- Sophie Quigley {allegra|decvax|ihnp4|linus|watmath}!utzoo!mnetor!sophie