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From: dougs@teklds.UUCP (Doug Schwartz)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: rape and abused females
Message-ID: <698@teklds.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 20-May-85 12:29:58 EDT
Article-I.D.: teklds.698
Posted: Mon May 20 12:29:58 1985
Date-Received: Wed, 22-May-85 02:08:13 EDT
References: <187@cuuxa.UUCP> <485@ihlpg.UUCP> <521@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP>
Reply-To: dougs@teklds.UUCP (Doug Schwartz)
Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR
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In article <521@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> beth@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (beth d. christy) writes:
>In Message <485@ihlpg.UUCP> sed408@ihlpg.UUCP (s. dugan) writes:
>>> 
>>> Any of you ladies need firearms training?
>>> I'll teach you to shoot if you live in the Chicago area.
>>
>>So your solution to violence is more violence?  I simply don't understand
>>
>>				Sarah E. Dugan
>
>Self-defense is not violence.  And having and knowing how to use a gun is
>not the same thing as "blowing a hole in a person".  A bullet in the knee
>or foot is a relatively safe and effective way of using "as much force as
>necessary to get him away".  Nobody said you have to aim for his face. And
>with a little luck, you won't have to fire it at all.  There are not a lot
>of folks (even sick ones) who want to stick around and argue with a gun
>(but you better be knowledgable about using it anyway).
>
>--JB                                             "The giant is awake."

You must be joking.  One of the commandments of martial arts is that if
you have gotten yourself in a situation where you must use a weapon you
don't try this "shoot em in the knee/gouge em in the eye" b*ullsh*t
you see on TV.  It's too damn easy to screw up and miss.  If you are
cornered by someone go for their torso and pull the trigger until they drop.
It's better if you blow them away than if you just wound them -- less hassle.

Also, you better be prepared to use a weapon if you exhibit it.  You would
be embarrassed to be shot to death with your own pistol :-).  Get some
martial arts training and some time in at the firing range -- you'ld be
surprised how inaccurate most people/pistol combinations are.  Dirty
Harry notwithstanding, most people couldn't hit an elephant at over 25-30
feet with a snub nosed .38.

I've hunted all my life and am a veteran with many hours on the firing range,
and I still would run like hell if someone tried to accost me -- even with
my shotgun in hand (which I'll take hands down any day over a handgun).

Doug Schwartz
Beaverton Design Center
CAE Systems
Instrument Design Group
Tektronix, Inc.
Beaverton, OR.
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