Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!tcp-ip From: tcp-ip@ucbvax.ARPA Newsgroups: fa.tcp-ip Subject: Re: MILNET/ARPANET performance Message-ID: <7596@ucbvax.ARPA> Date: Thu, 30-May-85 12:08:40 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.7596 Posted: Thu May 30 12:08:40 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 31-May-85 04:04:18 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.ARPA Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 36 From: CERF@USC-ISI.ARPA Folks, Gateway performance IS important. Especially for DoD where the whole point of internet was to capitalize on connectivity where ever it could be found; in a crisis, the traffic goes where it can. I think the gateway performance has been decreasingly satisfactory as the level of traffic has built up. Clearly, the character-echoplex requirement exacerbates matters a good deal, and the 8 messages outstanding rule on the ARPANET and MILNET make the problem more severe since traffic gets throttled below the TCP/IP level as a result (the new END/END protocol in the IMPs should help some). Are there any hard data about gateway throughput - Dave Mills always seems to have his hands on measurement information - how about it, Dave? Can BBN say anything about higher capacity gateways under development? Before we tar the LSI-11/03 gateways, let's try to find out where the bottleneck is - for all I know it is other than the gateway itself. I remember that in the Ft. Bragg Packet Radio experiments we found that 8 messages outstanding were the real bottleneck and quickly went to line at a time application support to reduce the packet rate. This was particularly acute at Bragg because nearly every appliation ran on the SAME host and the 8 message limit applied between that host (ISID) and the gateway qua host on ARPANET. Vint