Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site gloria.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rochester!rocksanne!sunybcs!gloria!colonel From: colonel@gloria.UUCP (Col. G. L. Sicherman) Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: AI and Turing's Thesis Message-ID: <761@gloria.UUCP> Date: Tue, 21-May-85 10:14:32 EDT Article-I.D.: gloria.761 Posted: Tue May 21 10:14:32 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 25-May-85 06:19:08 EDT References: <113@nvuxf.UUCP> Organization: North American Veeblefetzer, Inc. Lines: 24 ["Those who refuse to go beyond fact rarely get as far as fact." --H. Jackson] > But Turing also stated that "The halting problem for Turing machines is > unsolvable" where the halting problem is defined as "Given a Turing > machine M and an initial tape T, does M halt when started on tape T?" > I take all this to mean that one computer, given the inputs of > another computer's hardware and software specifications and its input, > cannot determine if the program will halt, or will go into "infinite > loop." In other words, one computer cannot "debug" another. > > Human beings can "debug" programs, and are capable of determining if > a program goes into "infinite loop." If human beings can perform an > activity that Turing machines cannot, they must not be computable. > Therefore, human intellectual activity cannot be simulated on a machine. Debugging is one thing; looping is quite another. Nobody has figured out whether a (sound) program that searches for an odd perfect number will halt, and perhaps nobody ever will. The halting problem is purely mathematical. Mathematics won't serve as a model for all human activity. -- Col. G. L. Sicherman ...{rocksvax|decvax}!sunybcs!colonel