Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site umd5.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!umcp-cs!cvl!umd5!zben From: zben@umd5.UUCP Newsgroups: net.analog Subject: Re: Jacob's Ladder Message-ID: <554@umd5.UUCP> Date: Sun, 2-Jun-85 22:53:07 EDT Article-I.D.: umd5.554 Posted: Sun Jun 2 22:53:07 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Jun-85 08:06:56 EDT References: <72@biomed.UUCP> Reply-To: zben@umd5.UUCP (Ben Cranston) Organization: U of Md, CSC, College Park, Md Lines: 34 Summary: Some tips In article <72@biomed.UUCP> lagasse@biomed.UUCP (Robert C. Lagasse) writes: > I have tried building a Jacob's Ladder using a 2-transistor oscillator >feeding a T.V. flyback transformer but I have had problems with it: >... > 2) The H.V. arc produced wants to stay small in length. That is, it >does not want to climb up the rods and lengthen and finally break away >unless I blow on the arc with an airstream (really!). Mine is a 12 KV neon sign transformer with coat-hanger-wire electrodes. The bottom gap is about 1/2 inch and the top gap about 5 inches. The major causes of "hanging up" I have seen in almost 20 years of experimentation: 1. Too much "slope" - the electrodes separate too quickly. The effect of a Jacob's ladder is caused when the hot air generated by the spark rises. As hot air is easier ionized than cold, the arc will rise with the hot air but if the slope is too much the effect of the electrodes separating will swamp the hot air effect and the arc will stay at the bottom. 2. Electrodes not straight. If the electrodes have little bends or knees in them the arc will tend to hang up at that point. The finest ladder I have seen was at the Ben Franklin Institute in Philadelphia, PA. Their electrodes were perfectly straight and nearly four feet long with a very gentle slope - the arc took literally 6 or 7 seconds to go the distance. My advice to you is to rework your electrodes. Make sure that they are as straight as possible, with a gentle slope (15 degrees or less) and find out exactly where the arc is hanging up. Examine that point. If there is a bump of metal or anything there, FILE IT DOWN! Sharp points give off arcs much more easily than flat areas. (Yes I know why, but it's too involved to try to explain it here). Good luck, and remember, this kind of electricity can kill! -- Ben Cranston ...{seismo!umcp-cs,ihnp4!rlgvax}!cvl!umd5!zben zben@umd2.ARPA