Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site duke.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!duke!crm From: crm@duke.UUCP (Charlie Martin) Newsgroups: net.astro.expert Subject: Re: Where's the center of the universe? Message-ID: <5869@duke.UUCP> Date: Wed, 22-May-85 10:36:27 EDT Article-I.D.: duke.5869 Posted: Wed May 22 10:36:27 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 24-May-85 06:12:56 EDT References: <1544@amdahl.UUCP> Reply-To: crm@duke.UUCP (Charlie Martin) Distribution: net Organization: Duke University Lines: 38 Summary: In article <1544@amdahl.UUCP> gam@amdahl.UUCP (G A Moffett) writes: >If the Universe is expanding from a common point, where is that >point? In particular, in what area of our sky is the direction >of this point? >-- >Gordon A. Moffett ...!{ihnp4,cbosgd,sun}!amdahl!gam Someone better qualified than I will probably give a wonderful technical explanation, but in the mean time.... The big bang background radiation (i.e. 3degK microwave flux) appears to be evenly distributed around the sky in all directions; that is, there is no stronger point in any direction. This could be interpreted to mean that *we* are at the centre of the universe (and I'm surprized that no Creationist has picked that one up.) However, it is easier to explain (for me, anyway) that the universe as we see it is a hypersurface which is expanding is some n-space (say 4-space for tradition, although there are arguments for lots of other spaces). Then we could see the space expanding away in all directions evenly because the actual point from which it is expanding is not in our perceived space at all. This is all pretty loose in these words, but it can be seen with a nice analogy: suppose we were Flatlanders on the surface of a sphere in 3-space (these are actually spherelanders, but you know what I mean). If the sphere expands uniformly in 3-space (like a balloon being inflated) then *each* flatlander will see every other point move away from them while they stand still -- and each will perceive no "direction" from which the expansion of the universe is centered. So the direction you are asking about seems to be backwards in time to the Big Event -- or at least off in some direction outside of our space. -- Charlie Martin (...mcnc!duke!crm)