Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site harvard.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!sasaki From: sasaki@harvard.ARPA (Marty Sasaki) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: Re: Spring cleaning Preamps (actually CD vs LP) Message-ID: <142@harvard.ARPA> Date: Fri, 24-May-85 02:00:28 EDT Article-I.D.: harvard.142 Posted: Fri May 24 02:00:28 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 25-May-85 06:25:19 EDT References: <141@utflis.UUCP> <301@moncol.UUCP> <494@edison.UUCP> Reply-To: sasaki@harvard.UUCP (Marty sasaki) Organization: Harvard Science Center Lines: 43 One of the problems with the CD vs. LP debate is the difference in cost of the hardware. You can buy a top CD player for the cost of just the turntable (no arm or cart). The difference is especially true in the low end. The Magnavox CD player will beat the pants off of any combination of table, arm, and cart for $300. There is no question (in my mind, anyway) that dollar for dollar CD players produce better sound, better imaging, better dynamics and lower distortion, than LP players. However, if you are willing to spend more money on the analog player, then things become confusing. When things are set up properly a good analog player is simply amazing. (The LP advocates are knowingly nodding their heads and smiling at this point. The CD advocates have already hit the 'n' key.) I listened to a small jazz group and could place the exact position of each drum and cymbal. Of course the front end cost over $3000 (Sota Star Saphire, Souther arm, a Kiseki (I forget which one) cart feeding a Klyne pre-preamp). I've never heard such precise imaging from a CD. But is this worth $2000? Top CD players and top LP players both produce very good sound, but the sounds are different. Who is to say which is better? At best, you are comparing the sound that you hear through your audio system with what you think you remember the "real" thing sounds like. As an example, imaging at a concert may be absolutely horrible because of the hall acoustics. You are not limited to hearing though. Visual cues will often give you the impression that the imaging is terrific. If the recording engineer exagerates the left/right separation on the LP to compensate for the hall acoustics (most (all?) LPs have exagerated separation) but the guy doing the recording for the CD decides to be accurate, which recording is correct? Which one is better? There is also the question of what you are used to. If you have listened to LP's since the beginning of time, you are probably going to like the "LP sound" (nobody makes sushi like my mom). More to say, but I've rambled too long already. -- ---------------- Marty Sasaki net: sasaki@harvard.{arpa,uucp} Havard University Science Center phone: 617-495-1270 One Oxford Street Cambridge, MA 02138