Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site petrus.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!petrus!karn From: karn@petrus.UUCP Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: Re: Spring cleaning Preamps (actually CD vs LP) Message-ID: <359@petrus.UUCP> Date: Wed, 29-May-85 22:43:28 EDT Article-I.D.: petrus.359 Posted: Wed May 29 22:43:28 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 30-May-85 20:29:50 EDT References: <141@utflis.UUCP> <301@moncol.UUCP> <494@edison.UUCP> <142@harvard.ARPA>, <358@petrus.UUCP> <336@moncol.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Inc Lines: 36 > Sorry Phil but it is these stupid sweeping generalizations that make > CD vs LP a war, rather than an intelligent discussion. I must admit that I always smile when I get a comment like this. Baiting the digiphobes is like eating cashews; you can't stop until they're all gone. We all have our weaknesses. I guess I'm not the only one who makes such "stupid sweeping generalizations". Consumer Reports in its latest issue made essentially the same statement. I can hear it now: "If you trust Consumer's Reports, you must be a gullible fool". Well, perhaps so, but I've heard similiar ad-hominem attacks on other reasonably well-established experts from flat-earthers, creationists and ESP-believers, and I've long expected an article from the CSICOP (the group that debunks pseudoscience) on the golden-ears. Even if I had no objective evidence for my claim (which exists in abundance) a look at the motivations of the various parties involved can be very illuminating. I would classify the die-hards into two categories: a) Those who have plunked thousands of dollars into "high end" analog playback systems. (ihuxl!messina beat me to this one). People are naturally reluctant to admit such mistakes to themselves, and persist in face-saving attempts to rationalize and justify their decisions. b) Those who simly delude themselves through ppseudo-scientific arguments based on a misunderstanding of well-established theory. Both groups share something that is the touchstone of pseudoscience: the refusal to use objective measurements and to properly control comparative experiments. Can somebody PLEASE tell me what the terms "imaging" and "dimensionality" are supposed to mean? Or are they used because they're deliberately vague? Phil Karn