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From: molnar@utflis.UUCP (Tom Molnar)
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Subject: Re: Re: ... (actually CD vs LP)
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Date: Thu, 30-May-85 13:21:03 EDT
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Summary: LP easier to listen to at concert levels

In article <358@petrus.UUCP> karn@petrus.UUCP writes:
# Sorry. The best LP player may sound a little better than your average
# run-of-the-mill turntable, but it is still a far cry from even the
# cheapest CD player (assuming the CDs aren't too dirty...early cheap
# models had lousy error correction.)
# 
# It's a simple, provable, measurable fact.
# 
# Phil


There is no question that CD players have a lot of advantages over LP players.
But musicality is not one of them. The first time I heard a CD player
I was as impressed as hell. The dynamic range, the lack of surface noise,
the deep bass -- all contributed to an impressive sound.

But try listening to a CD player at concert levels. Not to Van Halen, but
to music played on strings, or brass, or piano. Will you turn the volume
down after a half hour? You sure will. The CD sound causes fatigue.
Then listen to a good LP on a high quality turntable at concert level.
I think you notice the difference.

I had the opportunity this week to attend a Soiree. I sat in a living room
and listened to Mozart (violin and medium grande piano), Brahms (viola
and organ) and other pieces *live*. 

Comparing my Oracle Delphi and my Yamaha CD to live music indicates to my
ears that a high quality LP (well recorded and mastered) sounds more
realistic than CD. In fact, you can tell in an instant. I have Telarc LPs
and CD as well as from ANGEL etc. I have tried to listen to both pure
digital recordings and digitally remastered analogue recordings. In each case
the LP came out on top.
(You don't need to take my word for this, I can refer questions to others 
who had attended the live performance and listened to my system afterwards).

Don't get me wrong though, I have all the respect in the world for CD players.
In fact, if you can't afford a high quality turntable, then a CD will is
an excellent alternative. I like the fact that my CDs will sound
the same (no scratches etc) 5 years from now. Nor do I need to replace 
a stylus, belt, or whatever. CD is here to stay. But do not be deceived by
hardware specifications. The real test is your ears and taste in music.

						Tom Molnar

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