Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site twitch.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!twitch!guido From: guido@twitch.UUCP ( G.Bertocci) Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Re: Stiff vs soft suspension myths Message-ID: <194@twitch.UUCP> Date: Thu, 23-May-85 17:23:43 EDT Article-I.D.: twitch.194 Posted: Thu May 23 17:23:43 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 24-May-85 05:23:22 EDT References: <191@twitch.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel Lines: 39 After posting my original article on the weight transfer myth, I received some replies wondering about cars, usually racing, with the inside tire in the air. My original article does not say that the inside and outside tires have the same load. Only that one cannot change the distribution of the load by changing the stiffness of the suspension. The load on each tire is completely determined by the radius of the turn and the speed around it, not the junk connecting the tires. For example, pick your favorite entrance ramp and go around it at 40 mph. Do this twice, once with a "soft" suspension and once with a "stiff" suspension. If you could put a scale under each tire you would read almost exactly the same thing both times. (For example, for your two front tires you might have 1000 lbs on the outside and 400 lbs on the inside). By changing your swaybars, springs there is no way to change the readings to say 900lbs and 500 lbs or 1100 and 300 lbs. This is what I mean by saying that you cannot transfer weight by changing the suspension stiffness. Your body roll will differ depending on the stiffness on the suspension, but the load on each tire will not, because the center of mass does not move much when the body rolls. Cars with a wheel in the air, (assuming they haven't hit a bump) have simply increased the point at which they lose traction, to the point where the load on the inside tire is zero. Most cars slide before this point is reached. Once the inside tire starts to lift, the camber on the loaded tire changes dramatically, causing the tire to slide. This is most fortunuate for drivers. Otherwise, they would find themselves upside down a lot more ofter than they do already. -- Guido Bertocci AT&T Bell Labs Holmdel, NJ ...!ihnp4!houxm!twitch!guido