Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watarts.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watarts!mupmalis From: mupmalis@watarts.UUCP (M. A. Upmalis) Newsgroups: net.bicycle,net.politics Subject: Re: Bicycles, Violence and Hatred Message-ID: <8468@watarts.UUCP> Date: Fri, 24-May-85 11:56:01 EDT Article-I.D.: watarts.8468 Posted: Fri May 24 11:56:01 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 25-May-85 07:18:43 EDT References: <988@ames.UUCP> <492@ihlpg.UUCP> <972@peora.UUCP> Reply-To: mupmalis@watarts.UUCP (M. A. Upmalis) Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 39 Xref: watmath net.bicycle:1199 net.politics:9079 Summary: Sanjay Tikku writes about his perspective on bikes... Well I as a bicycle rider object to cars driving on the streets that I am on.. Roads are meant for public transportation (not necessarily motor.. is seems to me the public pay for them) The fact that they spew out carbon monoxide, lead etc (which endanger both yourself myself and especially children's brains) are a waste of fossil fuels, a resource that if not my children, my childrens children will be denied, is definitely an inefficient form of transportation (I take it that you don't take the bus...) I would welcome relegating cars to freeways and country roads where they belong.... :-) The point Mr Tikku is that we have a right to the roads much as you do.. We can learn to share, and by wise planning I can bicycle along with you while you destroy the environment and rape the resources of the earth (note, no smileface) Taking away bicycles would increase the demands on the road system People have to get to work somehow.. The city of Montreal in an innovative arrangement is putting bike racks on buses to allow people to cross transportation options and reducing cars on the road.. I hope that this isn't construed as hate mail, Mr Tikku, in this group discussion, with arguement is the norm.. You might like to know that florida is the worst state for bike fatalities in the states, over a hundred last year, the state of florida views this as a problem and believes that it should be doing more for the cyclist... If you want to alleivate yourself of your phobia, sir, I would suggest you take up biking, it's generally good for the nerves... -- ~~ Mike Upmalis (mupmalis@watarts)