Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version VT1.00C 11/1/84; site vortex.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!vortex!lauren From: lauren@vortex.UUCP (Lauren Weinstein) Newsgroups: net.crypt Subject: Re: encrypted mail Message-ID: <672@vortex.UUCP> Date: Wed, 29-May-85 15:41:24 EDT Article-I.D.: vortex.672 Posted: Wed May 29 15:41:24 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 31-May-85 23:44:19 EDT References: <4173@allegra.UUCP> Organization: Vortex Technology, Los Angeles Lines: 37 Unfortunately, the legal issues surrounding responsibility for passing traffic by third parties who are not common carriers are very cloudy, which complicates the entire situation. My own suspicion is that many sites would feel VERY nervous about seeing megabytes of miscellaneous encrypted material flowing through their system. The fact that they don't usually bother to look at pass-through is beside the point-- the point is that they always can if they need to get a handle on how their system is being used and abused. From a legal standpoint in case of lawsuits, this can be very important. For example, let's say that someone's publisher decided to sue the sites that were distributing their columns w/o permission. Since most of the sites are NOT common carriers and would be unable to attain such status, their only protection against such activities would be to try block (through some sort of filtering, either automatic or manual) the "illicit" messages. If traffic were encrypted, they would be unable to do this, and their willingness to pass messages under such conditions could be deemd "recklessness" by the courts. When you're a common carrier it's another matter--you have some additional protections. But in an informal network like we've got here, the vast majority of sites would not have such protections and would be unable to attain it, thusly leaving them exceedingly vulnerable to abuse and suit. --Lauren-- P.S. The fact that message filtering does not occur now is also beside the point. The issue here is that it would be technically possible to make what the courts would call a "good faith" effort to block illicit messages if necessary, IF those messages are in the clear. If you're not a common carrier, I suspect that you are still taking implicit responsibility for all traffic you send to other sites. The fact that you don't look at it may be, from a legal standpoint, your own fault--you still may well be responsible for it. In any case, this issue is probably worth careful consideration and investigation. --LW--