Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: notesfiles Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!decvax!decwrl!greipa!twg!pesnta!hplabs!hp-pcd!hpfcmt!ron From: ron@hpfcmt.UUCP (ron) Newsgroups: net.cycle Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <19000006@hpfcmt.UUCP> Date: Tue, 7-May-85 11:57:00 EDT Article-I.D.: hpfcmt.19000006 Posted: Tue May 7 11:57:00 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 26-May-85 00:40:40 EDT References: <-38900@rduxb.UUCP> Lines: 26 Nf-ID: #R:rduxb:-38900:hpfcmt:19000006:37777777600:1092 Nf-From: hpfcmt!ron May 10 07:57:00 1985 Re: "the complete stop" You could do the old stunt of NOT putting your feet down and using the sidestand instead :-) The test in Virginia was worse than a joke. It was a rip-off. It consisted of having a very prim and proper young woman (who obviously never would ride on 'one of those' ) stand on the sidewalk outside the building and watch while two of us : got on our bikes, started them, rode around the outer perimeter of a very small (but full) parking lot, parked the bikes, shut down, and dismounted. For this the charge was $ 9. I suppose the passing criteria was that the applicant not fall down while being observed :-$ There is a point to be observed here. If riders can be licensed without any real demonstration of skill or sense on something which everyone 'knows' to be so dangerous, just think about how little training/testing the automobile driver gets away with. From the paranoid defensive driver's saddle of: Ron ("If you come any closer I'll arm this DEVICE and blow the whole state up !" Miller HP Ft. Collins Systems Div. at : {ihnp4}... hpfcla!ron-m