Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mnetor.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!mnetor!clewis From: clewis@mnetor.UUCP (Chris Lewis) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: WW 2 Message-ID: <881@mnetor.UUCP> Date: Tue, 28-May-85 10:55:02 EDT Article-I.D.: mnetor.881 Posted: Tue May 28 10:55:02 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 28-May-85 12:28:10 EDT References: <667@dataio.UUCP> Reply-To: clewis@mnetor.UUCP (Chris Lewis) Organization: Computer X (CANADA) Ltd., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Lines: 36 Summary: In article <667@dataio.UUCP> bright@dataio.UUCP (Walter Bright) writes: >Some points I feel need to be raised about all the discussion >about Reagan's Bitburg visit: >3) Being in the SS was different, one had a choice about that. Correct > me if I'm wrong, but I think that one had to be a card-carrying > Nazi to be in the SS, else you wound up in the Wehrmacht. Also, > the SS, not the Wehrmacht, was in charge of the concentration > camps. I certainly agree with your first and second points. However, some comments on your third: 1) No, you didn't need to be a card-carrying Nazi to be in the SS. Many of them were, in fact, drafted into the SS. (A friend of mine's father was drafted into the SS as an engineer building bridges on the Eastern Front) 2) True, the SS did run the concentration camps. But certainly not all of the SS did. The SS were also the "crack" front-line troops (particularly on the Eastern Front). Yes, I know that some these troops were also involved in "battle-ground" "atrocities" (eg: alleged SS Panzer's execution of 40 U.S. prisoners), but so were all combat forces (eg: during the D-day invasion, American pilots strafed downed German pilots while they were trying to surrender to British troops. At other times, some allied units simply didn't take prisoners. Nor can you consider what happened in Dresden to be a particularly legitimate war-time exercise.) 3) Many members of the SS, indeed, were given a choice to join or not. However, during the war, very few people outside of the camps really knew what was going on. Once they were in, it was probably too late to do anything about it. You did what you were told or were shot - immediately. -- Chris Lewis, UUCP: {allegra, linus, ihnp4}!utzoo!mnetor!clewis BELL: (416)-475-8980 ext. 321