Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site psc70.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!dartvax!psc70!tos From: tos@psc70.UUCP (Dr.Schlesinger) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.flame Subject: Re: jj doesn't wanna play anymore! Message-ID: <132@psc70.UUCP> Date: Tue, 28-May-85 16:49:13 EDT Article-I.D.: psc70.132 Posted: Tue May 28 16:49:13 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 30-May-85 06:40:26 EDT References: <3697@alice.UUCP>, <591@digi-g.UUCP> Organization: Plymouth State College, Plymouth, NH Lines: 27 Xref: watmath net.politics:9139 net.flame:10163 The idea (as set forth by M. Leroy) that an opportunity for a political discussion means one can say "anything [he] wants.." is unfortunately revealing of serious misunderstanding of freeedom of speech, of democracy, and of need for mutual trust and responsbility for a democracy to function. In any serious discussion forum it is generally a very serious breach of the rules to argue "ad hominem" -- i.e. to attack the person rather than the person's ideas. In all of our legislative bodies this is the reason that members are not even permitted to address one another directly, but must address the chair. The sad fact is that a wonderful opportunity like this cannot work for long unless the participants either develop a very thick skin and ignore the violators of the necessary unwritten order; or a moderator of some sort is willing to serve (time, energy?) and is accepted as has already been discussed by others. Of course, in an open meeting a moderator cannot function as an unseen censor... his rulings can be appealed and overruled by the group, whereas in this medium we would never know what items are being censored out as "improper" contributions. Certainly it would help if those who seem to have a need to attack the other person, rather than the ideas being set forth, remember that this tactic invariably betrays the bankruptcy of the arguments... one who has confidence in the seriousness and solid ground for his or her arguments would not want to weaken them by resorting to name calling, put-downs, or questioning the motives of others.