Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-lymph!arndt From: arndt@lymph.DEC Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Stephen Hutchison blues Message-ID: <2356@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Wed, 29-May-85 09:37:39 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.2356 Posted: Wed May 29 09:37:39 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 31-May-85 02:46:09 EDT Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 21 My word. I can only hope that you work for AT&T or some other rabbit company like that. Your tale of being a software evaluator and having "schedule slips and changes to specifications two weeks before the product is due to ship to customers" makes me laugh and cry at the same time. I am a Product Manager in a software group and it is my job, among other things,to see that that sort of crap doesn't happen. And it doesn't. There are slips,but for valid reasons not because we don't know what we should build or a programmer fell off his chair two months back and nobody noticed (they're doing it all the time so how can you tell if it's serious?). As for being one + 'ed by some turkey who comes in at the last moment to "changethe specs" (do people actually get away with that in other companies??) I once put up a sign over a wastebasket outside my office for suggestions on the current product. What ever happen to marketing sign off, management buy-in? Is your manager letting this happen? Crazy. If you work somewhere for DEC don't tell and if you work for someone else get out before they fold caus' we're going to eat them alive. Wow. Talk about war stories. Poor lad. Keep chargin' Ken Arndt