Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!brl-tgr!wmartin From: wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: smoking in public Message-ID: <11190@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Fri, 31-May-85 14:54:38 EDT Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.11190 Posted: Fri May 31 14:54:38 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Jun-85 13:45:13 EDT References: <439@ttidcc.UUCP> <131@pyuxii.UUCP> Reply-To: wmartin@brl-bmd.UUCP Distribution: na Organization: USAMC ALMSA Lines: 40 Actually, though I am a non-smoker and fairly militant against smoking, I do NOT object to smoking in bars. (Restaurants are different, see later.) But a bar is a traditional place to drink *AND SMOKE*. A non-smoker can simply not go into a bar. It is "enemy territory", if you like that analogy. Eating establishments that have a bar AND an eating area should be set up as follows, depending on their physical layout: 1) Bar in separate room, no eating in bar -- smoking OK in bar, and in smoking area in eating room(s); ideally, separate smoking and non-smoking eating rooms, not just regions. If regions are used (one single eating room), the smoking area is to be determined by the air-flow pattern (e.g., this is an engineering/scientific decision, not an esthetic one) -- smoking areas are always to be down-wind. 2) Bar in separate room, also eating tables in bar -- simple and the clearest arrangement; the bar is the smoking area, the eating room is non-smoking. (In big restaurants, where there are multiple eating rooms, one or more other eating rooms can be smoking, of course.) 3) Bar in same room as eating area; all one big room -- this is the thorniest problem. Suppose the bar area is upwind? The bar area should be smoking, the area away from the bar non-smoking. If air-handling equipment has to be changed to make the bar downwind, that should be a deductible expense to recompense the owners for establishing the non-smoking area. (Somehow *more* deductible than an ordinary business expense -- accellerated depreciation or the like.) For small neighborhood bars that serve food, there is no way to make a non-smoking area. If smoke bothers you, you stay out of them. Note that I write this as a NON-smoker. I am willing to accept that there will be places I won't go because of smoke. (There are places I won't go for many other reasons, this isn't unique or a hardship.) This principle makes the most sense and keeps people out of each other's way. Thus it is to be preferred. Will Martin