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From: ed@mtxinu.UUCP (Ed Gould)
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Subject: Re: Re: Women and the consumption of toilet paper.
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Date: Thu, 30-May-85 18:31:33 EDT
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>>I think it is due to testosterone poisonning myself.
>
>Frankly, Ms. Quigley, I think your attitude sucks.

I like her attitude much better than your sense of humor.

>Believe it or not, there are quite a few men who really don't give a shit
>whether they are manly or not. They do things because they like to do so,
>or because it makes sense to do so, not because they are trying to prove
>themselves or make a social issue.

Well, to tie this in to another major discussion on the group - that of
sexist language - most men stand up because that's how their fathers
did it.  In other words, they're just carrying on the male tradition
without thinking about what it means.  That's exactly the problem the
folks who want to get rid of "he" as the generic third person pronoun
want to deal with.

It was corny at the time, and still is, but there's a line in the play
"Butterflies are Free" that says "There are none so blind as those
who will not see."  Corny or not, it makes a good point.

-- 
Ed Gould		    mt Xinu, 2910 Seventh St., Berkeley, CA  94710  USA
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