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From: herbie@watdcsu.UUCP (Herb Chong [DCS])
Newsgroups: net.games.rogue
Subject: Re: Demon princes & Lesser gods
Message-ID: <1428@watdcsu.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 29-May-85 10:22:22 EDT
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Posted: Wed May 29 10:22:22 1985
Date-Received: Thu, 30-May-85 02:44:04 EDT
References: <420@cmu-cs-k.ARPA>
Reply-To: herbie@watdcsu.UUCP (Herb Chong [DCS])
Organization: U of Waterloo
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Summary: 

In article <420@cmu-cs-k.ARPA> tecot@cmu-cs-k.ARPA (Edward Tecot) writes:
>I was playing srogue last night, I was a 16th level cleric on dungeon level
>34 when, using my monster detection, saw that in four separate rooms, were
>four nasty monsters, the two I remember being the demon prince and some
>lesser god.  Needless to say, I did not survive.  My question, is how does
>one deal with these; in addition, how does one deal with black puddings and
>pit fiends?  The only way I found to deal with pudding is with a wand of
>cancellation.  Any other ideas?

i assume you mean some version of advanced rogue.  dealing with things
like the gods and other unique monsters requires trickery as well
as sheer power.  i've found that unless you have somewhere over 150
and preferably over 200 hit points and a very good weapon and armor,
you should avoid going head-to-head with these types.  a wand of
disintegration with LOTS of charges is good for softening up the
monsters a bit so that fewer blows are required to kill them.  a blessed
wand of teleport monster may help.  potions of haste self and setting traps
are also useful to get around these monsters without doing battle.

since you were on level 34 and the amulet was only on level 35, you
may consider setting a trap door trap and dropping through it.  this
is sometimes known as plunge mode.  you try and get down and back as
fast as possible without dealing with the really nasty monsters.
plunge mode should be quite workable once you are able to take on
ancient dragons with some degree of success, although you may want to
try doing it a little earlier than level 34.

there are several ways of dealing with black puddings:
1)	wand of cancellation
2)	wand of disintegration
3)	blessed wand of teleport monster
4)	if you can get around them, wand of paralyze monster
5)	also when you can get around them, scroll of hold monster
6)	getting them to run over trap doors
7)	casting a spell or praying for cancellation
8)	wand of slow monster if you need to get around them

there are probably a few others i haven't thought of.

Herb Chong...

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