Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site wdl1.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!greipa!pesnta!hplabs!hpda!fortune!wdl1!jbn From: jbn@wdl1.UUCP Newsgroups: net.lang Subject: Re: Re: Assembly VS HOL: Having it both Message-ID: <439@wdl1.UUCP> Date: Thu, 23-May-85 21:23:23 EDT Article-I.D.: wdl1.439 Posted: Thu May 23 21:23:23 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 27-May-85 03:12:47 EDT Sender: notes@wdl1.UUCP Organization: Ford Aerospace, Western Development Laboratories Lines: 17 Nf-ID: #R:mako:-75700:wdl1:8600006:000:937 Nf-From: wdl1!jbn May 23 13:35:00 1985 Burroughs Algol was a high-level language, at least as high-level as C or Pascal. So is PL/S. But PL/360 is totally nonportable and makes the register structure of the target machine, for example, very visible. It's a different kind of language than most programmers are used to. One of the key properties of a medium-level language is that the programmer is not insulated from the machine architecture at all. Stanford may still have PL/360. They still have ORVIL, WYLBUR, Algol-W, and a number of other antiques running on the IBM iron. In fact, the Stanford CS department's latest new machine is a DECsystem 2060 that DARPA had left over from some project elsewhere and offered to Stanford. Stanford still has the old Incompatible Time-Sharing System running on SAIL, after all these years. The fact that something is still in use at Stanford reflects only that Stanford got into the business early. John Nagle