Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!brl-tgr!tgr!greep@rand-unix.ARPA From: greep@rand-unix.ARPA (Steve Tepper) Newsgroups: net.mail.headers Subject: Re: Names with spaces Message-ID: <10940@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Wed, 22-May-85 21:57:39 EDT Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.10940 Posted: Wed May 22 21:57:39 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 24-May-85 21:25:27 EDT Sender: news@brl-tgr.ARPA Lines: 33 I will seize the current fracas about spaces in names as an opportunity to give vent to a long-standing gripe, which has to to with network protocols in general but is a particularly sore point when it comes to mail. My complaint is that, given the lack of any network police, the decision as to who has to change what to make it work with something else is often more of a political question than a technical one. Typically the scenario is something like this: User Foo@FooHost wants to send mail to Bar@BarHost. Now it turns out that the person who maintains the software used at BarHost (who likely doesn't even work there, unless BarHost is a one-of-a-kind operating system) has decided to "improve" the mail system in some way which is uncontestably at variance with the standard, with the result that some mail breaks. A cleanliness freak would, justifiedly, state flatly that the burden is on either BarHost or their software maintainer to get it fixed. The reality is unfortunately different. It may be that Bar@Barhost is Foo's project sponsor, or someone else of sufficient stature that Foo considers the ability to communicate electronically with Bar a high-priority matter. Complaining that the problem is at BarHost may be morally satisfying but does not get the message delivered, especially if the person who made the offending change is obstinate and claims that his "improved" version is so obviously superior that it is incumbent on the rest of the world to mimic his changes until they become a de facto standard. The outcome: some poor soul at FooHost has to figure out what BarHost's mail server is now willing to accept and hack up FooHost's mailer to accomodate it, without disrupting other mail services from FooHost in the process. I am exerting considerable restraint here by refraining from mentioning the names of any guilty parties (and all the cases I dealt with were too far in the past to be of any immediate concern), but I'm sure other people have also found themselves in the unpleasant situation of being the person who had to "fix" something to accomodate someone else's non-standard "improvements".