Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84 chuqui version 1.7 9/23/84; site nsc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!nsc!nessus From: nessus@nsc.UUCP (Kchula-Rrit) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: How to fab One-Of-A-Kind Systems Message-ID: <2752@nsc.UUCP> Date: Fri, 24-May-85 12:14:36 EDT Article-I.D.: nsc.2752 Posted: Fri May 24 12:14:36 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 25-May-85 09:41:34 EDT References: <10903@brl-tgr.ARPA> Organization: The Patriarchy of Kzin, Kzin Lines: 26 > > With my own two little hands I wirewrapped a Garry ECL wire-wrap board that > ran just fine at 45.5 Mhz after a little tweaking. The tweaking consisted of > putting in flip flops to catch signals that wouldn't propagate through three > chips in less than 22 nanoseconds. In any case, Augat sez that you can hit > 100 Mhz with ECL wirewrap, and I think I'll check that out this summer. > I was amazed the first time I looked at rise and fall times on ECL with > a scope. The edges are NOTICEABLY less sharp after TWO inches of wire. > I guess that God just doesn't like higher harmonics in 50 Mhz square waves. > > John McCluskey @JPL-VLSI.ARPA > ------ *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE *** Having worked with ECL(wire-wrapped, no less!) in the past, I must agree with John. What's even more interesting is when you leave the terminator resistors out-- your neat pulses turn into swooping curves almost like pieces of sine waves! It was one of the more interesting types of things I have worked on. Ahh, ECL, one of the few arcane arts they haven't (yet) burned people for practicing. I think the other is analog... From the alter ego of-- Kchula-Rrit