Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site amdcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!lsuc!pesnta!amd!amdcad!phil From: phil@amdcad.UUCP (Phil Ngai) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: AT vs Z-100 - a myth Message-ID: <1478@amdcad.UUCP> Date: Fri, 31-May-85 20:51:41 EDT Article-I.D.: amdcad.1478 Posted: Fri May 31 20:51:41 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Jun-85 05:31:22 EDT References: <1040024@acf4.UUCP> <1040027@acf4.UUCP> Reply-To: phil@amdcad.UUCP (Phil Ngai) Organization: AMD, Sunnyvale, California Lines: 18 In article <1040027@acf4.UUCP> tsc2597@acf4.UUCP (Sam Chin) writes: >Now both Z-100 and AT use 150ns RAMS. Why did the AT designers have to >insert that 1 wait state? The reason is that the 80286 was just too fast >for those 150ns RAMS. If the claim is that an 8088 running at 8 Mhz is >faster than a 6 Mhz 80286 then it too must have that 1 wait state. If it >doesn't need 1 wait state, then it must obviously be slower than the 80286. Sorry Sam, it isn't that simple. Using interleaved memory, you get 4 clock cycles minus data strobe and data setup times to perform a memory cycle on the 80286. Thus, an 8 MHz 80286 allows nearly 500 nS for a memory to cycle. I think if the AT needs 1 wait state at 6 MHz to use 150 nS memories, its designers must have been lazy (or lousy). -- There's always tomorrow. Phil Ngai (408) 749-5720 UUCP: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra}!amdcad!phil ARPA: amdcad!phil@decwrl.ARPA