Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site gypsy.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!siemens!gypsy!emery From: emery@gypsy.UUCP Newsgroups: net.misc Subject: Re: re: home defense Message-ID: <27200001@gypsy.UUCP> Date: Thu, 30-May-85 13:27:00 EDT Article-I.D.: gypsy.27200001 Posted: Thu May 30 13:27:00 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 31-May-85 04:16:26 EDT References: <1178@hound.UUCP> Lines: 44 Nf-ID: #R:hound:-117800:gypsy:27200001:000:2177 Nf-From: gypsy!emery May 30 13:27:00 1985 (into the fray...) If I were buying a weapon for myself, I'd agree with a pump shotgun. But, for my wife (5'2, somewhere around 100 lbs, she won't tell me), I think I'd go with a M-1 Carbine or an AR-15 (civilian M-16). First, I doubt my wife could hold a .45, let alone fire one. Secondly, it is easier to shoot yourself with any pistol than a rifle/shotgun. Third, a rifle in the house is not considered as threatening as a rifle. (This may be good or bad, but it is best if no one knows you have any weapon in the house.) For a smaller person, particularly one who is scared #@$%^&*less, a shotgun's recoil would be too hard to handle. Remember, you have to be ready for a 12 guage; in the dark with some father raper/mother stabber on the loose, you probably are not as composed as you should be. Therefore, despite the 6 round magazine, you would probably not get off more than one good shot. This brings up the argument of: is one shot sufficient? Your intruder, having been shot at, hopefully will leave the house. Well, I for one do not want to bet ALL my cookies on this one hope. Therefore, although I hope he leaves after the first shot, I want to be ready in case he isn't cooperating. So, why an M-1 Carbine or AR-15? Several reasons. They are small and light, and therefore easy for a small female to handle. Although they kick, it's nowhere near as bad as a shotgun. Being rifles, they are easier to hold with two hands, also useful as clubs and maybe a bit harder to turn on their owners. There is one more reason. If I decide to shoot at an intruder, then I figure if the first 5 or 6 shots don't get him, the next 10 will. In other words, you can shoot (almost) forever. 30 rounds of ammunition can last a Long Time. This is important especially if there is more than one bad guy. Between the two rifles, I'd rather have the M-1. The primary reason is cost; an M-1 Carbine is much cheaper than an AR-15. However, I suspect that a ballistics expert might argue for the AR-15 in an enclosed area. Dave Emery {princeton|ihnp4}!siemens!emery p.s. I do NOT have a weapon in the house, but my wife and I have talked about it.