Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site mhuxt.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!js2j From: js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag) Newsgroups: net.misc,net.politics Subject: Re: State Tax Dedudction Message-ID: <899@mhuxt.UUCP> Date: Fri, 31-May-85 10:56:28 EDT Article-I.D.: mhuxt.899 Posted: Fri May 31 10:56:28 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Jun-85 02:07:46 EDT References: <735@mtuxo.UUCP> <896@mhuxt.UUCP> <1042@ihuxb.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 36 Xref: watmath net.misc:8030 net.politics:9172 > > Up till now, the federal government has been forcing people who live in > > low-local-tax areas to subsidize the taxes of the people who choose to live > > in the high-local-tax areas. Disallowing state taxes as a deduction would > > stop this. Do you really think that it was fair for you to force all of the > > people in the midwest to help pay your local taxes? I don't. > > -- > > Jeff Sonntag > Am I just completely dense (don't answer that!)? How is it that the low-local > tax areas are subsidizing the high-local-tax areas? Everyone who itemizes > gets to deduct their state tax. Where does this subsidy business occur? > Mike Clifford It works like this: Person A, living in NYC, pays high local taxes. Under current tax laws, they deduct this amount from their gross income, reducing the amount of federal taxes they pay. The net effect is that their local tax costs them (1 - their marginal tax rate) * (nominal local tax) instead of the full amount. That difference is money which the federal government doesn't receive; they know this will happen, and adjust tax rates so that they get the total amount of money they want anyway. This means, of course, that federal tax rates must be higher than they would be otherwise to make up the difference. So all of the farmers in Nebraska, receiving *none* of the benefits which person A receives for his local taxes, have to pay higher federal taxes to make up for person A's local-tax deduction. Those of you who think taxes should be *fair* should like this since it *is* more fair than the current setup. Those of you who think taxes should come from the rich should like this since the high-income people will be the ones primarily affected. (the difference in taxes is: (their marginal federal tax rate) * (their local tax). The first term is progressive with income, the second is usually linear, so the product should be *much* larger for high income people than for low.) -- Jeff Sonntag ihnp4!mhuxt!js2j "It doesn't matter what you wear, just as long as you are there." - Martha and the Vandellas