Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site bbncca.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!bbncca!rrizzo From: rrizzo@bbncca.ARPA (Ron Rizzo) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Re: Data: Homosexuality may not be learned (or inherited, or...) Message-ID: <1436@bbncca.ARPA> Date: Tue, 21-May-85 17:48:35 EDT Article-I.D.: bbncca.1436 Posted: Tue May 21 17:48:35 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 23-May-85 00:35:16 EDT References: <655@ptsfa.UUCP> Organization: Bolt, Beranek and Newman, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 34 I agree with Rob Bernardo (Rob, I was on Castro Street on Mother's Day; were you there?) & others: the postings on this topic are more a study in sociology than scientific speculations, though engrossing none the less. I don't encourage participation in this kind of wool-gathering unless it's to reveal how drenched in social attitudes it is. The problem goes fairly deep. The wrong questions are being posed. Sophie Quigley's right when she says that on the face of things the most problematic fact is why do there appear to be so many heterosexuals? All of the hypotheses put forward to "explain" homosexuality (prenatal stress, recessive genes, etc.) are invidious ones containing an implicit idea of homosexuality as an exception or deviation from a norm of nature, even if no moral or psycho- logical censure is intended. Even the seeming accident of the pun in the phrase "recessive gene" is not entirely unrelated to the bias that motivates the kind of questions that netters have asked. The issues you choose to discuss and the terms in which they're discussed are important, apart from any considerations of how rational, inspired, or conscientious the discussion is. It may seem silly to netters for us to criticize this seemingly harmless, even well-intended discussion, but the kind of more subtle & indirect reinforcement of attitudes that occurs by the choice of topic & its treatment is probably as important as the more explicit & direct kind. For example, I've come to believe that debates about homosexuality hinging on sexual practices or gender roles probably keep alive stereotypes as much as they promise to dispel them. I don't mean to say stop talking about the topic, but only to urge people to make a real effort to be aware, of the topic, their opinions, themselves & the environment. The biology invoked so far could stand improvement; it's suffered probably because a social issue's involved. Cheers, Ron Rizzo