Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site sdcc13.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!hao!hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!sdcc3!sdcc13!ee163ahj From: ee163ahj@sdcc13.UUCP (PAUL VAN DE GRAAF) Newsgroups: net.music,net.music.synth Subject: Re: Drum Machines & Samplers - Flame Message-ID: <252@sdcc13.UUCP> Date: Fri, 24-May-85 17:51:20 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcc13.252 Posted: Fri May 24 17:51:20 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 29-May-85 23:37:14 EDT References: <317@mhuxr.UUCP> <979@pyuxd.UUCP> <10758@brl-tgr.ARPA> Reply-To: ee163ahj@sdcc13.UUCP (PAUL VAN DE GRAAF) Organization: U.C. San Diego, Academic Computer Center Lines: 29 Xref: watmath net.music:7692 net.music.synth:289 While I really don't mind drum machines, something that does bother me is the current emphasis on simulating instruments rather than creating new sounds. A lot of traffic in this group lately has been of the nature of "how good of a piano preset does synth X have ?", nonsense about keyboard feel etc. I'm not a piano player (I have trouble just typing), and I'm getting tired people calling themselves electronic musicians when all they do is play presets or use samplers. If you want to use a synthesizer in this manner call it an organ, because that's all it amounts to. Just listen to "I Just Called to Say I Love You" and hear Stevie Wonder use a $20,000 Kursweil (sp?) as a souped-up Hammond Organ. I have nothing against composers using drum-synths & samplers as an aid. I've done this a number of times with composing software on a C64. I also don't mind people using simulators (nee synthesizers) for effect. A lot of dance music now-a-days uses them for the ultimate in "tight" rhythm sections, accurate within fractions of milliseconds. I'm not too familiar with the new samplers, but from what I've heard most people use them as recording machines. Do they have any programmability besides speed of playback? Can you do any signal processing like filtering phase-shifting etc. ? If so, I'd call them synthesizers, otherwise they're organs. Sorry I'm so ignorant on this subject, but I do most of my stuff on custom computer controlled analog synths, and haven't bothered to read keyboard magazines (other than this newsgroup) in the past couple of years. Donning my glass-wool suit (asbestos is cancer-causing and bad for the lungs) and waiting for the flames Paul van de Graaf sdcsvax!sdcc13!ee163ahj U. C. San Diego