Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site cybvax0.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <544@cybvax0.UUCP> Date: Thu, 23-May-85 15:08:42 EDT Article-I.D.: cybvax0.544 Posted: Thu May 23 15:08:42 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 26-May-85 00:50:12 EDT References: <-41400@psivax.UUCP> <14600014@hpfcrs.UUCP> Reply-To: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Organization: Cybermation, Inc., Cambridge, MA Lines: 31 Summary: In article <14600014@hpfcrs.UUCP> lief@hpfcrs.UUCP (lief) writes: > >[Sarima (Stanley Friesen)] > >Humans have a > >natural *capacity* to *learn* language, something which no other > >animal has ever been demonstrated to have. > > Any idea what mutation or natural selection mechanism caused mammals which > have no *capacity* for learning languages to somehow gain that ability? GACK! Talk about fallacious insinuations! Shame, Lief. Let's rewrite the question to fit in with evolutionary thought, rather than creationist misrepresentations. "Any idea what mutation or natural selection mechanism enabled mammals which have precursors for ability to learn languages to gain that ability?" There's no doubt that other mammals have elaborate systems of communication which (for technical reasons) we don't call language. But no insuperable gap has been identified between human language ability and that of apes. Chimps and gorillas seem to be on the threshold of language ability: I say that because as of yet, we've not been able to tell one way or the other. First, we need more understanding of just what our language ability is. As for the specific mechanisms, no we don't know yet. However, we have a wide variety of plausible evolutionary mechanisms to explore. (Which reminds me, that I ought to go out and read "Promethean Fire", by Lumsden and E. O. Wilson.) -- Mike Huybensz ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh