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From: lief@hpfcrs.UUCP (lief)
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Subject: Re: Orphaned Response
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Date: Wed, 15-May-85 19:59:00 EDT
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>                                   No  creationist  argument
>about  holes in evolutionary theory can prove anything about
>the validity of creationism unless the Creator can be  shown
>to exist.
>              Duncan A. Buell             
>
No evolutionist argument about holes in creationist theory can prove
anything about the validity of evolution unless The Origin of Life
from spontaneous generation can be shown.  10 years, hey?
>
>                  Can the creationists on this list separate
>their  arguments  from  their religion?  I suggest that they
>cannot.
>              Duncan A. Buell             
>
I like this.  It is the seperation of religion from Creation that makes
the whole theory of Creation ridiculous.  In fact, Evolutionists attempt to
do that either intentionally or unintentionally.  You see, how can an all
loving God who created all things perfect be responsible for the deadly
virus, the mosquito, the useless wings, etc?  In this sence it does not
make sence!

However, the religion of the Bible teaches not only about a loving God,
but also about sin, the adversary Devil, the big flood, etc.  When the
whole scope of the conflict of good and evil is tied with Creation, it
falls into place very neatly.  And as Duncan Buell stated, without this
religious backdrop, Creation cannot be argued.

On the other side of the coin, many Creationists do not really understand
what Evolutionists are saying, either intentionally or unintentionally.
A couple weeks ago in church while teaching my class, I thought I was going
to be shot when I mentioned that "natural selection" was a fact.  I
believe some folks labelled me a heretic.  Anyway, did you know that
"natural selection" is Biblical?  You can read about it in Genesis.  When
Jacob went to live with his uncle Laban, he used "natural selection"
to improve his herd of sheep and cattle.  I find it disturbing that some
Creationists are so defensive that they explode at anything that sounds
like evolution, even when it's Biblical.  Perhaps Evolutionists may want
to discard "natural selection" from their theory since it is Biblical?(-:

Lief Sorensen
HP Fort Collins, CO
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