Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site utastro.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!ut-sally!utastro!bill From: bill@utastro.UUCP (William H. Jefferys) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Origin of Species Message-ID: <155@utastro.UUCP> Date: Tue, 28-May-85 17:46:54 EDT Article-I.D.: utastro.155 Posted: Tue May 28 17:46:54 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Jun-85 11:58:44 EDT References: <1148@uwmacc.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: U. Texas, Astronomy, Austin, TX Lines: 51 > How does one account for the origin of species without accounting for > the origin of the first species? That seems just a little too > convenient. But your statement is false in any case. The notion that > chemical evolution is integral to the theory of evolution is widespread. > (Miller and Fox come to mind.) The BSCS (high school biology > curriculum) "Blue edition", for example, is titled "Molecules to Man". > I just saw this in a library the other day, so I looked in it out of > curiosity. The chapter preceding the one on (what Jeff calls) > evolution was about - you guessed it - abiogenesis. Evidently there > was no such false dichotomy between the beginning of life and > speciation of existing life in the minds of the editors. > To demonstrate that the theory of evolution is independent of the notion of abiogenesis, it is sufficient to point out that many individuals believe that primitive life was created by a Creator, and that once this miracle occurred, evolution over billions of years eventually produced what we see today. This is a version of theological evolutionism, and is a perfectly respectable position. I may be wrong, but it is my impression, reading Fred Hoyle's recent writings, that he subscribes to a view something like this. The following chart shows four positions that have been or are held by reasonable people, classified by two distinguishing characteristics: Creation Abiogenesis Without "Creationism" "Spontaneous Generation" evolution (Ruled out by Pasteur's experiments). With "Theological "Standard Evolutionism" evolution Evolutionism" (As described Above) Yes, it is true that most scientists believe in abiogenesis. Yes, it is true that a discussion of abiogenesis naturally leads to a discussion of evolution. But the two most certainly can be discussed in isolation from each other. The fact of evolution is entirely independent of the possibility of abiogenesis. -- "Men never do evil so cheerfully and so completely as when they do so from religious conviction." -- Blaise Pascal Bill Jefferys 8-% Astronomy Dept, University of Texas, Austin TX 78712 (USnail) {allegra,ihnp4}!{ut-sally,noao}!utastro!bill (uucp) bill%utastro.UTEXAS@ut-sally.ARPA (ARPANET)