Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxm!sftig!sftri!sfmag!eagle!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Arthur Pewtey) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Evidence, gentlemen. Not mysticism. Message-ID: <1035@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Fri, 31-May-85 23:09:48 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1035 Posted: Fri May 31 23:09:48 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 2-Jun-85 02:47:47 EDT References: <402@oliveb.UUCP> <616@digi-g.UUCP> Organization: The Chartered Accountants Who Want to Be Lion Tamers Association Lines: 19 >>>"Design" is evidence of a "Designer"! >>What makes you think that any living creatures show any signs of design? >>Most biological systems seem like massive kludges to me. > Don't say this! Otherwise, the creationists will start saying > "kludges are evidence of a hacker" and we'll be back where we started! > > Merlyn Leroy If you assume the existence of your favorite deity in advance a priori ipso facto etc. then ANY evidence, interpreted in any way (it's evidence of design, it's evidence of a kludge), is "proof" of that deity. Teleological nonsense aside, interpreting evidence in terms of a presupposed purpose you have in mind is bound to "prove" your assumptions. Which is as far as creationism will ever go. -- "Wait a minute. '*WE*' decided??? *MY* best interests????" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr