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From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz)
Newsgroups: net.origins
Subject: Re: The Scientific Case for Creation: (Part 21)
Message-ID: <559@cybvax0.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 1-Jun-85 13:13:38 EDT
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Posted: Sat Jun  1 13:13:38 1985
Date-Received: Sun, 2-Jun-85 20:19:59 EDT
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In article <366@iham1.UUCP> rck@iham1.UUCP (Ron Kukuk) writes
still more trivial and inaccurate criticisms:
> 
>        33.  The simplest form of life consists of about 600  different
>             protein  molecules. The mathematical probability that JUST
>             ONE molecule could form by the chance arrangement  of  the
>             proper amino acids is far less than 1 in 10**527. [a] (The
>             magnitude  of  the  number  10**527  can   begin   to   be
>             appreciated  by  realizing  that  the  visible universe is
>             about 10**28 inches in diameter.)

The simplest forms that we recognize as life TODAY may have that many
proteins: but it has long been supposed that first life forms were
simpler.  Thus, the probability you claim is ridiculously small.

>        34.  There are many instances where quite  different  forms  of
>             life  are  completely  dependent upon each other. Examples
>             include: fig trees and the fig gall wasp [a,b], the  yucca
>             plant  and  the pronuba moth [c], many parasites and their
>             hosts, and pollen-bearing plants and the  honeybee.   Even
>             the  members  of  the  honeybee  family, consisting of the
>             queen, workers, and drones,  are  interdependent.  If  one
>             member of each interdependent group evolved first (such as
>             the plant before the animal or one member of the  honeybee
>             family  before another), it could not have survived. Since
>             all members of the group  obviously  have  survived,  they
>             must  have  come  into  existence  at essentially the same
>             time.

Evolving together from independant organisms to obligate symbiotes is
the simple and obvious solution to the problem.
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Mike Huybensz		...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh